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I've noticed with my '71, which has about 120K miles on it, the voltmeter is pretty much always reading around 11 V regardless of speed or revs.
In my '73, which has about 77K miles on it, it reads 11 or so at start up and for the first couple miles and then goes up to between 12 and 13. I swapped the voltage regulators for the heck of it and it didn't change anything. Is the older alternator from the '71 just worn out?? Not looking forward to changing it with the engine in the car!! |
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Jerry ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,194 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
The dash voltmeter on my '71 reads between 12-13.5V. The dash voltmeter is far away electrically from the battery to give accurate readings. You should check the battery voltage with a DMM.
Does the GEN light come on with key-on and go out when the engine is started? |
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That dash volt meter is great for reminding you the blinker is on, and that's all. I put a relay in and wired mine direct to the battery. Now it is useful. The original wiring to the meter now turns on the relay which brings fused 12v direct (more like 13.7 when the car is running) to gauge. No damage to the original wiring and works great.
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That dash volt meter is great for reminding you the blinker is on, and that's all. I put a relay in and wired mine direct to the battery. Now it is useful. The original wiring to the meter now turns on the relay which brings fused 12v direct (more like 13.7 when the car is running) to gauge. No damage to the original wiring and works great. I found too much signal loss and my voltmeter wouldn't read any more than 12v powered off old centre console wiring,changed the supply to my Hella aux fuse board with direct feed to battery and achieved the correct reading as per battery . Cheers. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,716 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Good to know. Thx guys.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,412 Joined: 19-March 13 From: Charleston SC Member No.: 15,673 Region Association: South East States ![]() ![]() |
I substituted the cigar lighter for a USB double port with built in voltmeter, so it gets its power from that circuit. Typically reads 13.4 V
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You should check the battery voltage with a DMM. +1. That console voltmeter is not consistently accurate (sometimes never). Mine used to flicker with the brake and turn signals and one time (before I replaced the fuse panel with the JWest one) I jostled the fuse loose with my knee while well away from home and it gave me a scare. That, along with desire for more knee room, was one of the driving factors for my removing the console gauges entirely. What matters is the voltage at the battery. Check it there. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,716 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
My initial entry was a little simplified- I actually swapped engines in my '73 2.0. With the original engine the voltmeter in the console (OEM) would read under 12V at first when driving and would then, after a few miles, read over 12 or 13.
I put the modified engine from my '71 in the 2.0 and since then the voltmeter never even gets to 12V no matter how far I drive. That is why I wondered if the alternator wasn't working as well as the one in the 2.0 engine. Does this make sense?? (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,046 Joined: 20-July 21 From: Upstate, NY Member No.: 25,740 Region Association: North East States ![]() |
Yes, but you really shouldn't even look at that voltmeter unless you run it directly to battery. Get a DMM on the posts while the car is running.
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,516 Joined: 22-February 13 From: Middletown CT Member No.: 15,565 Region Association: North East States ![]() ![]() |
I put the modified engine from my '71 in the 2.0 and since then the voltmeter never even gets to 12V no matter how far I drive. And yet the battery is never flat, engine never fails to crank at start and never loses juice? Then it's charging correctly. Volt Ohm Meter (VOM/DMM) on the battery. Expect ~12.5 volts at rest with key on, ~13.5V while running. Curious: same or different alternator? |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,716 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Both engines have their original alternators which have never been fiddled with. Swapped entire engines with their original alternators.
I'll take measurements directly from the battery and see what I find... |
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Jerry ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 7,194 Joined: 29-October 04 From: Allentown, PA Member No.: 3,031 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
On my car I measured the battery voltage and recorded the voltage on the center console voltmeter after starting and at higher RPM with headlights off and all exterior marker lights on. The voltage on both did not change with RPM.
The battery was at 13.8V while the voltmeter was 13.0V. I checked the voltmeter before installing a while back and it was within 0.1V from 9V to 16V so the voltmeter is quite accurate. Its placement in the wire harness accounts for the difference in voltage. |
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