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Can a gas tank be restored? |
DC_neun_vierzehn |
Jun 22 2022, 08:40 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 377 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Question for the 914 veterans ...
My mechanic told me to start looking for a solid used tank (based off of his inspection of the inside of my tank). Told me if we were going to move forward with our planned engine rebuild we should replace the tank, too. Since it's a matching #s car ('73 2.0) he suggested finding a solid used tank (instead of an aftermarket tank like the Dansk option). I thought I had read in other threads (and I tried to search before posting w/o any success) that others had taken their tank to a radiator shop to have it boiled and refinished on the inside (or something like that). Pardon my ignorance here friends - I'm still learning. If I don't want to go aftermarket ... what are my option on replacing my tank? Thanks in advance. |
mepstein |
Jun 22 2022, 08:50 PM
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914-6 GT in waiting Group: Members Posts: 19,239 Joined: 19-September 09 From: Landenberg, PA/Wilmington, DE Member No.: 10,825 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
There are very few places on the east coast that boil out tanks. Some of them put a big hole in the tank and then weld it shut. I would either diy or buy new.
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SKL1 |
Jun 22 2022, 08:57 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,597 Joined: 19-February 11 From: north Scottsdale Member No.: 12,732 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
I believe there are franchise places like Gas Tank Renu that can save old tanks. Unless it is really bad for some reason it should be saveable.
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Dave_Darling |
Jun 22 2022, 10:13 PM
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914 Idiot Group: Members Posts: 14,981 Joined: 9-January 03 From: Silicon Valley / Kailua-Kona Member No.: 121 Region Association: Northern California |
Anything can be done, if you have a supply of cutoff wheels and a welder. All it takes is time, effort, and money.
If there are lots of pinholes (they like to collect where the tank rests on the felt pads in the compartment, among other places) it can cost rather more to repair and then treat the tank than it costs to replace. And unless even more care and work go into the repairs, many of them will be noticeable. --DD |
Superhawk996 |
Jun 23 2022, 06:03 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,748 Joined: 25-August 18 From: Woods of N. Idaho Member No.: 22,428 Region Association: Galt's Gulch |
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Steve |
Jun 23 2022, 06:38 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,569 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
Why, when you can buy a new one? Not worth the hassle.
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DC_neun_vierzehn |
Jun 23 2022, 07:55 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 377 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
Why, when you can buy a new one? Not worth the hassle. @Steve as stated in my original post ... looking to keep the car as original as possible. I'm only aware of aftermarket tanks. Do you know where I can find a new original (NOS) tank? If not, that's the "why." |
Steve |
Jun 23 2022, 08:04 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,569 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
Why, when you can buy a new one? Not worth the hassle. @Steve as stated in my original post ... looking to keep the car as original as possible. I'm only aware of aftermarket tanks. Do you know where I can find a new original (NOS) tank? If not, that's the "why." The Dansk tank is identical to the original. https://www.jpgroupclassic.com/product?ID=1615600600 But beware there are early and late tanks. The first Dansk tanks had issues, but they fixed them. Problem is some shops might still have the messed up tanks in stock. As far as I know AA stocks both of the corrected versions. I installed one in a 75 914 from Sierra Madre. It was identical to the one we pulled out. The messed up tanks were missing the expansion chamber and charcoal canister mounts. Depending how bad the tank is they can be restored. I bought a used tank from BDStone914 on 914world, that he cleaned out. I then bought a tank sealer from stoddard. This was ten years ago before Dansk started making new tanks. |
dr914@autoatlanta.com |
Jun 23 2022, 09:00 AM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,817 Joined: 3-January 07 From: atlanta georgia Member No.: 7,418 Region Association: None |
not worth it these days the new dansk tanks are cheap
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mgphoto |
Jun 23 2022, 09:26 AM
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"If there is a mistake it will find me" Group: Members Posts: 1,335 Joined: 1-April 09 From: Los Angeles, CA Member No.: 10,225 Region Association: Southern California |
I recently restored the tank and surrounding area.
A local radiator shop with gas tank experience, I checked with the local hot rod guys. I removed the surface rust and sprayed epoxy primer, I added a silicone sheet to insulate the tank from the body where rubbing has occurred. The difference in price was the cost of the tax on the new tank. They make a small hole at the top corner, sand blast the internal rust, boil out any contaminates weld up the hole and paint. I scratched the paint pretty badly when I ran into an issue with the fuel lines being to stiff so I repainted and installed more pliant fuel hose. |
914sgofast2 |
Jun 23 2022, 05:04 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 613 Joined: 10-May 13 From: El Dorado Hills, CA Member No.: 15,855 Region Association: None |
The new tanks being sold by the Sierra Madre Collection are the wrong ones for our cars. I am returning one that I bought last month because it lacks the mounting tabs for the fuel vapor return system tank and cannister used on my 1970 model year, inspite of their website saying that one tank fits all years! Anyone know which reputable vendor sells the correct repro tanks? I am very disappointed that Dansk is making shoddy fuel tanks.
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Steve |
Jun 23 2022, 06:22 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 5,569 Joined: 14-June 03 From: Orange County, CA Member No.: 822 Region Association: Southern California |
The new tanks being sold by the Sierra Madre Collection are the wrong ones for our cars. I am returning one that I bought last month because it lacks the mounting tabs for the fuel vapor return system tank and cannister used on my 1970 model year, inspite of their website saying that one tank fits all years! Anyone know which reputable vendor sells the correct repro tanks? I am very disappointed that Dansk is making shoddy fuel tanks. I think they are selling the 75/76 version. I bought one from them and it was exact to my old 75 tank. |
wonkipop |
Jun 23 2022, 07:46 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,245 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
later tank not strictly 75/76.
but PET catalogue gives the wrong point for the fuel tank changeover . it notes end of the 73 model year for change to plastic expansion chamber. not correct. plastic expansion chamber introduced at some point after/around the middle towards the end of 74 model year. someone here probably knows exact date. later style tank set up for the plastic expansion chamber starts at that point. not meaning to get esoteric, but we stumbled into discovery with recent 74 1.8 L jet research that there is a tank in between the earlier and later. but its very minor and barely noticeable. for 74 model year cars after nov 30 1973 (when charcoal can goes to engine bay) and up to point where plastic expansion tank is introduced. has the metal expansion tank mount but slot for the charcoal can mount is not there. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/blink.gif) don't think dansk make that version. lost to the mists of time! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) none of that is in the PET but its there in the real cars. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beer.gif) |
DC_neun_vierzehn |
Jun 23 2022, 08:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 377 Joined: 16-November 20 From: Delaware Shore Member No.: 24,893 Region Association: MidAtlantic Region |
not worth it these days the new dansk tanks are cheap @dr914 @autoatlanta.com George, do you sell the Dansk replacement tank for a '73? The only one I saw on your site was for '74.5 - '76. Auto Atlanta |
wonkipop |
Jun 23 2022, 08:22 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,245 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
not worth it these days the new dansk tanks are cheap @dr914 @autoatlanta.com George, do you sell the Dansk replacement tank for a '73? The only one I saw on your site was for '74.5 - '76. Auto Atlanta go here click on 1 http://www.autoatlanta.com/porsche-parts/h...;section=201-00 |
bkrantz |
Jun 23 2022, 08:35 PM
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914 Guru Group: Members Posts: 7,732 Joined: 3-August 19 From: SW Colorado Member No.: 23,343 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
I had my tank "boiled out" at a shop in Tucson. They did not make a hole, but found a thin spot (from a local bit of rust on the outside) and welded that.
And they were very against any interior coating. |
Van B |
Jun 23 2022, 08:58 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,582 Joined: 20-October 21 From: Maryland Member No.: 26,011 Region Association: None |
Why, when you can buy a new one? Not worth the hassle. @Steve as stated in my original post ... looking to keep the car as original as possible. I'm only aware of aftermarket tanks. Do you know where I can find a new original (NOS) tank? If not, that's the "why." Not even remotely worth it IMO. You need to dump that supposition. You don’t keep the original oil filter, fuel filter, brake discs, pads, spark plugs, points, condenser, clutch, flywheel, tires, oil seals, vacuum hoses, or fuel hoses. So, if that tank is worn out and rusted, get a new one! Mine is still solid but has a layer of rust throughout and I’ll be getting a new one. With the original expansion tank on the top, no one will ever know. |
Eric_Shea |
Jun 25 2022, 08:16 PM
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PMB Performance Group: Admin Posts: 19,274 Joined: 3-September 03 From: Salt Lake City, UT Member No.: 1,110 Region Association: Rocky Mountains |
Dansk makes them in early and late configurations. Just boiling them out at a tank shop is more than the new ones cost. Spend your hard earned dollars elsewhere.
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BillJ |
Jun 26 2022, 06:16 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,091 Joined: 4-March 13 From: charlotte, NC Member No.: 15,610 Region Association: None |
Dansk makes them in early and late configurations. Just boiling them out at a tank shop is more than the new ones cost. Spend your hard earned dollars elsewhere. Exactly. I ran into the same issue with one of my cars. You need to specify which year and Dansk does make each version with correct tabs. I did get the wrong one at first and they quickly sent me the right one after speaking to them. |
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