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When Was Last 914 Produced? |
nihil44 |
Nov 21 2021, 04:10 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-January 12 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 14,058 Region Association: None |
I have a '76 and want to buy one of George's ( dr914@autoatlanta.com ) door jamb VIN stickers but I don't know the month of manufacture to specify. According to the Karmann chassis plate the approximate date is as follows Decoding the number is as follows using the number of my project car. The number on the Karmann chassis plate is 5049014 50 4 9 014 50 being the 50th week in the year (mid June '76. I believe Karmann used week 1 of the '76 production as the first week of June '75) 4 being 4th day of the week (Thurs) 9 being Karmann factory in Osnabruck 014 being 14th car made on that day That would be 14th car made on Thurs 10th or 17th June '76 - depending which week in June '75 Karmann chose to be week 1 of '76 production. My VIN is 4762904085. According to the VIN database on 914world, the last VIN was 4762924100 which would make my car 15th from the end of production. There are several sources which state that 914 production ceased early in '76. I am unable to find solid evidence of the month of the last 914 produced. I would appreciate some help in this inquiry Assuming my decoding of the Karmann plate is correct and the date for my car is Thurs 10th or 17thJune 1976 and mine was the 14th car on that day and there were only 15 cars to go until production finished, then they probably finished those last 15 cars by Friday the following day. I have often mused over Hans and Fritz walking out he gate of the Osnabruck Karmann plant late on that Friday afternoon on their way to the local tavern. As they downed a coulple of steins of the inkeeper's finest, did they lament the passing of the 914 with affection or did they celebrate the end of a bastard little car with an evil front air box and rear trunk torsion springs whose sole purpose was to relieve a few fingers from the hand of anyone foolish enough to approach their territory? Did Hans and Fritz ever contemplate that, 45 years later from their efforts, they would have spawned a community of crazies who actually like these little cars? But, When was that day??? |
nihil44 |
Nov 21 2021, 04:12 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-January 12 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 14,058 Region Association: None |
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FRUNKenstein |
Nov 21 2021, 04:33 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 109 Joined: 25-May 20 From: Overland Park, KS Member No.: 24,308 Region Association: Upper MidWest |
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wonkipop |
Nov 21 2021, 05:40 PM
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Advanced Member Group: Members Posts: 4,238 Joined: 6-May 20 From: north antarctica Member No.: 24,231 Region Association: NineFourteenerVille |
@nihil44 .
hows it going in brisbane? the first two numbers mean the week of the calendar year. so its probably 50th week of 75. ie sometime two weeks before xmas 75. there was something i read about all the bodies for 76 MY cars were made in 75 calendar year. they shut down the body production line sometime in 75 to switch the karmann plant over to making vw sirrocos. probably xmas by the sound of your karmann number? the cars were then completed from there on and sold until they ran out of stock as 76 MY cars. in the USA the 912E kicked in to cover the gap until the 924s arrived. |
SirAndy |
Nov 21 2021, 05:50 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,601 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
76 MY cars were made in 75 calendar year That is correct ... http://www.914world.com/specs/productionnumbers.php (IMG:style_emoticons/default/bye1.gif) |
SirAndy |
Nov 21 2021, 05:53 PM
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Resident German Group: Admin Posts: 41,601 Joined: 21-January 03 From: Oakland, Kalifornia Member No.: 179 Region Association: Northern California |
Always worth reposting:
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JeffBowlsby |
Nov 21 2021, 09:01 PM
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914 Wiring Harnesses Group: Members Posts: 8,470 Joined: 7-January 03 From: San Ramon CA Member No.: 104 Region Association: None |
With a Vin only 15 from the last, your car may have been made on the last day of production.
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73-914 |
Nov 21 2021, 09:43 PM
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works out to Thursday December 11
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SKL1 |
Nov 21 2021, 10:16 PM
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Interesting investigation!
I suppose if I had that car, I'd even keep the big bumpers! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif) |
wonkipop |
Nov 22 2021, 03:12 AM
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nihil44 |
Nov 22 2021, 05:00 AM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-January 12 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 14,058 Region Association: None |
Thanks for all the replies.
I conclude that 12/75 is the build month that is to go on the sticker. Can’t help but think of Hans and Fritz celebrating the end of production. |
DRPHIL914 |
Nov 22 2021, 06:52 AM
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Dr. Phil Group: Members Posts: 5,756 Joined: 9-December 09 From: Bluffton, SC Member No.: 11,106 Region Association: South East States |
so cool to have a car that was possibly built on the last day of production! this makes me wonder what was the last day of production for the '75 cars, before the '76s got stamped? according to my COA my '75 production was 09(sept)15,1975. had to be one of the last 75's built. i wonder what day they switched over from the 75 to 76? My car was ordered by the buyer a few months earlier special order Appearance group and L99k paint, and was delivered to the dealership on Oct 15 according to the paperwork passed down from the original owner. Phil |
davep |
Nov 22 2021, 04:55 PM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
I have a '76 and want to buy one of George's ( dr914@autoatlanta.com ) door jamb VIN stickers but I don't know the month of manufacture to specify. This is similar except for VIN to what you want. Attached image(s) |
KELTY360 |
Nov 22 2021, 05:39 PM
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What is the difference between a '75 and '76 2.0L?
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SirAndy |
Nov 22 2021, 05:56 PM
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What is the difference between a '75 and '76 2.0L? The BUBs are even BUBier on the '76 ... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/driving.gif) |
Gatornapper |
Nov 22 2021, 06:53 PM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,191 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States |
My '76 has 10/75 on the door plate. Couple months before last.
4762902176 Interesting that the number 76 appears in my VIN twice........but of no significance whatsoever.......... GN |
nihil44 |
Nov 22 2021, 10:16 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-January 12 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 14,058 Region Association: None |
@davep
I would be interested what number you have on your Karmann chassis plate. Your VIN is 37 from the end of production and it would be interesting to decode your Karmann number to determine on what day it was built Thanks again for all the contributions David |
Gatornapper |
Nov 23 2021, 06:41 AM
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Senior Member Group: Members Posts: 1,191 Joined: 22-September 17 From: Woods west of Richmond, VA Member No.: 21,449 Region Association: South East States |
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davep |
Nov 23 2021, 07:38 AM
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914 Historian Group: Benefactors Posts: 5,137 Joined: 13-October 03 From: Burford, ON, N0E 1A0 Member No.: 1,244 Region Association: Canada |
@davep I would be interested what number you have on your Karmann chassis plate. Your VIN is 37 from the end of production and it would be interesting to decode your Karmann number to determine on what day it was built Thanks again for all the contributions Not my car, I am just a researcher. I am listed here: That was 40 years ago now. The owner also posted this: week 50, day 4, fourth body finished that day. Note that finished means the body was welded up in the body shop, not even painted when that chassis # was stamped on the early cars. After painting the body tag (above) and the paint tag would be riveted to the chassis. The VIN would not be assigned until it was on the final assembly line. So while the Karmann body # is a guide to when the bodies were welded up and painted, the number is not well synchronized with the VIN and the order of completed cars. This thread shows the evolution of the front panel behind the bumper, with the late 1976 cars getting a different panel: http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?showtopic=198600 Can you post your paint code plate please. |
nihil44 |
Nov 23 2021, 08:18 PM
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Member Group: Members Posts: 157 Joined: 28-January 12 From: Brisbane, Australia Member No.: 14,058 Region Association: None |
@davep I didn’t realise you were the David Pateman the presenter of the Karmann plate decoder and historian/researcher. My Karmann plate was just about totalled by the soda blaster despite my best efforts to mask it off and request to him to avoid the area of the plate. The body colour on the plate is L 31 M – Scarlet (Mars) Red according to Dr B Johnson’s 914 Restorer’s Guide to Authenticity. I have repainted the car L 20 E – Signal Orange It is interesting to note in his book he has the VIN’s for the 76 MY as 476 29 00001 – 476 29 04075, yet my 76 has the Vin 476 29 04085. The information in the book came from the Automotion and Stoddard catalogs. Perhaps the fact checking lacked a little rigor. My car was purchased from Otto’s in Venice California in Oct ’95 without an engine and was exported to Australia. |
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