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iankarr |
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region ![]() ![]() |
Hi Guys,
Just finished restoring my gauge cluster and installing the LED upgrade described by Timothy_nd28. Here's the vid... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r3xJxEiIlIQ And here's Tim's step by step post... http://www.914world.com/bbs2/index.php?sho...=212130&hl= |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,089 Joined: 24-September 15 From: Apple Valley Calif Member No.: 19,195 Region Association: Southern California ![]() ![]() |
Thank you for posting, this mod is on my bucket list for sure. |
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,885 Joined: 23-August 10 From: Bradenton Florida Member No.: 12,094 Region Association: South East States ![]() |
Does the dimmer still work?
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 407 Joined: 26-January 09 From: Granite Bay, Ca Member No.: 9,985 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
Easy to follow, clear audio, nice close up shots, really well done video!
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iankarr |
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region ![]() ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 4,652 Joined: 25-July 15 From: New Zealand Member No.: 18,995 Region Association: None ![]() |
Does the dimmer still work? Thanks guys. the dimmer worked on my '73 with this upgrade. haven't installed this new cluster in my 74 yet, but no reason to think it wouldn't work as well. Done this myself and yes it is very effective,I purchased 3 x 300mm LED strips already to go in,on the tach I found that was a little short but didn't have any effect as there was plenty of light. My dimmer is bypassed as with my headlight switches both had dimmers fail one after the other (IMG:style_emoticons/default/headbang.gif) . Great video (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif) . ![]() |
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,298 Joined: 25-September 07 From: IN Member No.: 8,154 Region Association: Upper MidWest ![]() ![]() |
Very nicely done and one handed nonetheless! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
I nominate this procedural video for the classic section! Pictures don't do these upgrades any justice, however your video of the gauges being lit up did the trick. Since doing these conversions for other members, I did learn something not good since my original writeup, a electrical short. The flexible LED strip has a sticky adhesive on the back end. For whatever reason, when sticking the LED's inside the gauge can, the bottom of the flexible PCB shorted to the metal. Not taking any chances on future conversions, I have been applying a layer of double sided sticky foamy tape to the interior of the gauge can, then appling the LED strip ontop of this tape. The tape acts as a good electrical insulator and it also doubles as something to grab ahold of any loose light bulbs that happen to fall out of its lamp holder (IMG:style_emoticons/default/biggrin.gif) |
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region ![]() ![]() |
Thanks for the heads up Tim!
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Jackstands are my life. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
Happen to measure the thickness of the glass?
I've got a guy that will cut glass cheap but my later gauge, with the plastic lens, is about half as thick. Same thing with my 944 combo gauge, only 1/16" or so thick. |
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914 Guru ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 5,269 Joined: 17-February 17 From: Montana Member No.: 20,845 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
Nice video! FYI, you can solder leads to any of the copper pads on the cut lines of the LED tape. it doesn't have to be just at the soldered ones. (IMG:style_emoticons/default/beerchug.gif)
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Apex killer! ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 23,409 Joined: 31-December 04 From: Tahoe Area Member No.: 3,380 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Nice!
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The wrencher formerly known as Cuddy_K ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,439 Joined: 22-May 15 From: Heber City, UT Member No.: 18,749 Region Association: Intermountain Region ![]() ![]() |
Happen to measure the thickness of the glass? I've got a guy that will cut glass cheap but my later gauge, with the plastic lens, is about half as thick. Same thing with my 944 combo gauge, only 1/16" or so thick. Here ya go... this is original glass. 2.92mm / .115 inches (or 7/64). I replaced the ones on my gauges and just told the glazier to match the thickness. keep in mind that if you powder coat the rings you may need a slightly thinner glass. These lenses are installed under surprisingly tight tolerances and if the glass/ring combo is too thick, there won’t be enough metal left to re-crimp. ![]() |
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Jackstands are my life. ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 3,238 Joined: 14-March 03 From: Las Vegas, NV Member No.: 431 Region Association: Southwest Region ![]() |
I found Model Masters 28913 Red Orange to be a near perfect match for needles. Should be found at your local hobby store with models.
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,539 Joined: 3-February 09 From: SoCal Member No.: 10,019 Region Association: None ![]() |
Dimmable LEDs makes this awesome! (IMG:style_emoticons/default/smile.gif)
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Advanced Member ![]() ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 2,999 Joined: 1-March 03 From: Durango, Colorado Member No.: 373 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() ![]() |
I found Model Masters 28913 Red Orange to be a near perfect match for needles. Should be found at your local hobby store with models. (IMG:http://www.914world.com/bbs2/uploads_offsite/farm5.staticflickr.com-431-1517454158.1.jpg) (IMG:style_emoticons/default/agree.gif) |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 164 Joined: 19-February 21 From: Toronto Member No.: 25,223 Region Association: Canada ![]() |
Hi Ian. Video is amazing. Can someone recommend the LED strips from Amazon that will work?
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 588 Joined: 7-July 13 From: Bend OR Member No.: 16,100 Region Association: Pacific Northwest ![]() ![]() |
Happen to measure the thickness of the glass? I've got a guy that will cut glass cheap but my later gauge, with the plastic lens, is about half as thick. Same thing with my 944 combo gauge, only 1/16" or so thick. I see the OP posted above in the thread (post #12) the measured thicknesses. Its worth noting that if you do replace the plastic lenses with glass, then either use a bezel that came with OG glass lens, OR match the thickness of the plastic with the replacement glass. If you don't, re-crimping the bezel will be a bear of a task. Ask me how I know..... (IMG:style_emoticons/default/dry.gif) - Tony PS. @Iankarr Excellent video there! |
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Member ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 216 Joined: 30-April 20 From: Sunnyvale, CA Member No.: 24,202 Region Association: Northern California ![]() ![]() |
Just a comment regarding the LED strips. Palo Alto Speedometer suggested I use LED bulbs because the LED strips emit different lighting for each gauge because each housing is different. YMMV
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 931 Joined: 29-July 20 From: Colorado, USA Member No.: 24,549 Region Association: Rocky Mountains ![]() |
Since we are revisiting the past, where does one source the bulbs for an upgrade? My son was just asking if I was going to do this mod?
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Senior Member ![]() ![]() ![]() Group: Members Posts: 1,237 Joined: 18-March 09 From: Salem, NJ Member No.: 10,179 Region Association: None ![]() ![]() |
I replaced all the bulbs with blue LED's except the generator bulb.
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